| Episode number | MB07 (Part 7 of 42) |
|---|---|
| Chapter title | Ecumenism |
| Original air date | February 22, 1993 |
| Broadcast | Hour of the Time, WWCR shortwave |
| Primary texts read on air | The Great Controversy by Ellen G. White; The Present Truth by Bishop Stephen D. Lewis; Is the Virgin Mary Dead or Alive by Danny Vierra; Dungeon, Fire and Sword by John J. Robinson (excerpt) |
| Transcript length | About 7,136 words |
| Listen | Full series audio on archive.org |
Episode Summary
Episode 7 aired on February 22, 1993, and marks the first broadcast in the series to leave Epperson’s text and draw from a different primary source. Cooper opens by reading two newspaper items from 1989: an Associated Press dispatch in the Dallas Morning News in which Anglican Archbishop Robert Runcie called for all Christians to accept the Pope as a common leader, and a Bakersfield Californian story reporting that Baptist and Catholic theologians had found common ground after eighteen meetings between 1978 and 1988. These contemporary news items set the frame: the ecumenical movement is not theoretical, Cooper argues, but is already being assembled in public view.
After an extended disclaimer insisting he is not attacking any faith and is a true Constitutionalist who defends everyone’s right to believe as they choose, Cooper turns to Ellen G. White’s The Great Controversy, which he reads at length for most of the episode’s first half. White’s narrative, largely accepted by Cooper as historical fact, traces the persecution of early Christians under the Roman emperors beginning with Nero around AD 55 to 68, through the martyrdom of Paul and the centuries that followed. Cooper frames this history as the original war against Christianity, one he argues has never ended but has changed in method from open persecution to infiltration and corruption.
The pivotal event in White’s account, which Cooper presents as the master stroke of Mystery Babylon, is Constantine’s conversion and the resulting compromise between Christianity and paganism in the early fourth century. The series asserts that when force failed to destroy Christianity, the agents of the Mystery Religion instead infiltrated the church, gradually introducing pagan doctrines, ceremonies, and symbols until the original teachings of Christ were unrecognizable. Cooper lists specific changes: the day of rest moved from the seventh day to the first day of the week because Sunday was the pagan day for worshiping the sun; the second commandment against idols quietly erased by the Second Council of Nicaea in AD 787 to make room for images of Jesus, Mary, and the saints; and the doctrine of papal supremacy constructed through forged documents that monks fabricated over centuries.
Cooper then reads a passage from John J. Robinson’s Dungeon, Fire and Sword in which Pope Boniface VIII, at the first jubilee year of 1299, dressed in the robes of a Roman emperor and had heralds cry out in the streets of Rome, Behold, I am Caesar. Cooper takes this as an unguarded historical admission that the Roman Empire did not fall but simply became the Catholic Church. His commentary develops this into one of the episode’s central claims: the Vatican’s architecture preserves the solar temple of the ancient sun cult, and the obelisk at the center of St. Peter’s Square is what Freemasonry calls the lost word, the phallus of Osiris, the symbol of the generative force of the Mystery Religion.
The second half deepens the source reading with White’s account of the Dark Ages, the Inquisition, the sale of indulgences, and the establishment of purgatory as a profit-generating doctrine, all presented as the fruit of paganism absorbed into the church. Cooper adds a passage from Lucius Ferraris’s Prompta Bibliothecca Canonica, a Roman Catholic reference work the Vatican’s own encyclopedia described as a precious mine of information, quoting its descriptions of the Pope as Lord God on earth, King of heaven and earth and the lower regions, and one whose power is not of man but of God. Cooper calls this blasphemy on its face and notes that the title exactly matches the ancient description of Osiris.
The episode ends with one of Cooper’s most specific structural claims. He identifies the headquarters of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in Washington, D.C., thirteen blocks from the White House, as the present command center of Mystery Babylon in America. And he asserts that the Protestant Reformation was not a spontaneous religious revolution but a project of the Mystery Schools designed to weaken the Pope’s authority, noting that Martin Luther used the rose and cross as his personal seal, marking him as an initiate. The series’ announced conclusion follows: in the New World Order, the one-world religious leader will be seated on the throne of Rome. The argument continues in episode 8 on initiation.
Key Claims Made in This Episode
Documented from the broadcast. The site records these claims; it does not endorse them. Dated claims also appear in the series timeline.
- Cooper claims the Roman Empire never fell but became the Catholic Church, with the Roman emperor simply renaming himself Pope, and that Pope Boniface VIII publicly acknowledged this at the jubilee of 1299 by dressing in imperial robes and having heralds proclaim him Caesar.
- Cooper claims Constantine moved the Christian day of rest from the seventh day to Sunday in the early fourth century because Sunday was the pagan day of sun worship, and that bishops urged him to do so to advance the church’s power among pagans.
- Cooper claims the Second Council of Nicaea in AD 787 erased the second commandment against image worship and divided the tenth to preserve the count.
- Cooper claims ancient documents establishing papal supremacy from the earliest centuries of the church were forged by monks, a fact Cooper asserts has been proven by historians.
- Cooper claims the obelisk in St. Peter’s Square is the symbol of the generative force of the Mystery Religion, the phallus of Osiris, known in Freemasonry as the lost word, and that the Vatican’s outer courtyard is designed as a solar temple matching the circular temples of the druids.
- Cooper claims the Inquisition was established in the thirteenth century as the most terrible engine of papal control, responsible for the deaths of millions of martyrs.
- Cooper claims the headquarters of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, thirteen blocks from the White House in Washington, D.C., is the present command center of Mystery Babylon in America.
- Cooper claims Martin Luther’s personal seal bore the rose and the cross, identifying him as an initiate of the Mystery Schools and revealing that the Protestant Reformation was a project of Mystery Babylon designed to reduce the Pope’s authority.
- Cooper claims the goal of Mystery Babylon has always been to seat one of their own on the throne of the Vatican, and that by 1993 they had succeeded.
- Cooper claims the one-world religious leader of the New World Order will be seated on the throne of Rome.
Primary Sources Cited in This Episode
| Source | Status | Where to find it |
|---|---|---|
| Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy (1888, revised 1911) | Public domain (1888 edition) | Scans on archive.org |
| Bishop Stephen D. Lewis, The Present Truth | Not public domain; quoted only | Sources hub |
| Danny Vierra, Is the Virgin Mary Dead or Alive | Not public domain; quoted only | Sources hub |
| John J. Robinson, Dungeon, Fire and Sword (1991) | Not public domain; passage quoted on air | In print; sources hub |
| Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Bibliothecca Canonica (1766 edition in use) | Public domain | Search archive.org |
| J.A. Wylie, The History of Protestantism (1878) | Public domain | Scans on archive.org |
From the Broadcast
“The Roman Empire never fell. It just became the Catholic church. And the Roman emperor merely changed his name from ’emperor’ to ‘pope’.”
Cooper, MB07, February 22, 1993
“In the New World Order, the one-world charismatic and religious leader will be seated upon the throne of Rome. Mark my words.”
Cooper, MB07, February 22, 1993
Historians’ View
Ellen White’s account of the early persecutions and Constantine’s religious policies draws on real historical events but reflects a specifically Protestant theological reading. Professional historians of late antiquity treat Constantine’s relationship to Christianity as more complex and politically pragmatic than White’s narrative allows; the standard scholarly view does not support the claim that the Sunday law was a calculated capitulation to pagan Mystery Religion. The charge that medieval church documents were forged is partly accurate: the Donation of Constantine, a key text used to justify papal temporal authority, is widely accepted as a forgery produced around the eighth century, though this is a narrower claim than Cooper’s sweeping characterization. Architectural scholars do not describe the Vatican colonnade as a deliberate solar temple in the esoteric sense Cooper proposes. Martin Luther’s use of a rose-and-cross seal (the Lutherrose) was a personal emblem incorporating a cross, a heart, and a white rose with no documented connection to Rosicrucian or Mystery School initiations. We record all claims as broadcast; we do not endorse them.
Frequently Asked Questions
What is Mystery Babylon episode 7 about?
Episode 7 argues that the ecumenical movement, the gradual merging of Christian denominations and their rapprochement with Rome, is the visible, modern phase of a plan to create a one-world religion that Mystery Babylon has been pursuing since the fourth century. Cooper draws primarily on Ellen G. White’s The Great Controversy to establish the historical case. Related material appears on the Mystery Schools and Ancient Religion hub.
What books does Cooper read from in episode 7?
The episode draws mainly from Ellen G. White’s The Great Controversy, supplemented by Bishop Stephen D. Lewis’s The Present Truth, Danny Vierra’s Is the Virgin Mary Dead or Alive, and a passage from John J. Robinson’s Dungeon, Fire and Sword. Cooper also quotes from Lucius Ferraris’s Prompta Bibliothecca Canonica.
Did Cooper attack Catholics in this episode?
Cooper explicitly and repeatedly stated he was not attacking Catholics, Protestants, or any faith, framing the broadcast as historical documentation rather than religious criticism. He described himself as a Constitutionalist who defends every person’s right to worship as they choose, while arguing the institutional history of the church serves as evidence for the Mystery Babylon thesis.
Where can I listen to Mystery Babylon episode 7?
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Continue the Series
- Previous episode: MB06: Maitreya
- Next episode: MB08: Initiation
- All 42 episodes: Mystery Babylon complete episode guide
- Topic hub: Mystery Schools and Ancient Religion
- Related hub: Luciferian Doctrine and New Age
- Every dated claim in the series: Mystery Babylon timeline
- Books Cooper cited: sources and bibliography
